VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) – Port Mann Bridge planners insist it was the weather, not the design that led to the ice-fall that damaged several cars yesterday. But at least one expert is questioning the placement of the cables that are directly above the bridge deck.
Christos Georgakis, a structural engineering expert from Denmark, says the designers should have done a risk assessment before the bridge was built to determine whether icefall was going to be a problem.
“If they found that the level was very low, they probably wouldn’t do anything about it,” says Georgakis. “But if they found the level was high, then I would say this not the best choice for the cable planes. They should have chosen vertical cable planes or outwardly-lying cable planes.”
He adds he doesn’t know whether the designers were forced to work with a preliminary design that they weren’t allowed to deviate from.
Mike Proudfoot, CEO of the Transportation Investment Corporation, says specialists are reviewing whether a heating system would prevent snow and ice from accumulating on the cables.
Georgakis, who has researched various de-icing methods, says he hasn’t seen anything on the market that would make sense for the Port Mann Bridge.
“None of them are fail-proof and some of them are probably not worth implementing due to cost,” he explains. “In other places around the world, normally… instead of de-icing, the bridge is shut down until it is safe.”
Earlier this year, the Tacoma Narrows Bridge was also shut down for several hours because ice was falling onto the bridge deck from the cables above. No one was hurt.
Home Improvement Profiles
News1130 Apps
Tell us what you think!
News1130 Business Profile
Why not just shut down the inner lanes and have the traffic funnelled to the outer lanes where the ice is closer to the bridge deck where the impact will be no worse than what you would see from a street lamp?
How could they possible do a design for weather like Arizona? they didn’t realize we do get snow, ice, rain, etc like seriously and now you want to charge the taxpayers even more? I don’t think so, you designed it now you fix it for free you bunch of no nothings
and be done with it. Who needs to travel in snow?
Heated cables? Holy crap. There is a total length of 45 kilometers of support cables in the bridge. Can you imagine how much power would be required to keep 45 kilometers of 300mm diameter cables above above freezing point without any insulation? Just tack that onto the tolls I guess.
One of the big reasons for replacing the old Port Mann rather then twinning it was that the old bridge cost too much in maintenance compared to a new bridge. If they decide to heat the cables (and all the great outdoors along with them), the maintenance bill will likely far exceed the old Port Mann bridge’s bill. Thank you Falcon/Campbell/Clark for your wasting of taxpayers dollars (oh wait, it is not every taxpayer’s dollars, but just those who cross the bridge and pay tolls for your stupidity).
Sorry, but ice usually falls from the Alex Fraser Bridge as well, not necessarily from the cables, but from the massive concrete towers. It’s going to be a problem anytime we have an icy winter storm/heavy wind situation – it doesn’t happen all that often, but they should probably be proactive and have a plan in place anyways…
Alex Fraser = two towers for ice to possible fall from. Port Mann = hundreds of cables covering the entire span of the bridge for ice to fall off. BIG Difference.
Did you fail to see the video taken from cars during the ice bombing? This is a very real problem that WILL repeat.
Really, the weather…..we don’t live in the tropics, a rainforest yes, but rain often becomes snow in the winter. The design is totally wrong. Why did they not follow the design of the Alex fraser bridge, where the cables are on the outside? The widest bridge in the world needed a little more planning, and the engineers should have seen this coming! Now the bridge is going to cost alot more to fix a problem that we should’nt even be discussing. Its ridiculous, shutting the bridge down due to weather! Who are these people running the show anyway, there should be some accountability! Really lucky no one was killed!