SURREY (NEWS1130) -The BC Teacher’s Federation says it doesn’t take into consideration items that are of priority to teachers.
“The capacity of the system has been robbed by this provincial government, you can’t say let’s now bring certainty and stability to a system that is in such disarray,” says BCTF President Susan Lambert.
The premier has introduced a strategy she feels could translate into long-term labour peace. It’s called “Working Together for Students” and in exchange for a 10-year labour deal, Christy Clark is putting the following goodies on the table:
- Allowing public school teachers a formal role in education policy decisions
- A voice in allocating a 100 million dollar Priority Education Investment Fund, which would kick in during the third year of this proposed labour deal
- What the government calls “salary certainty and fairness, by indexing public school teacher salaries to increases to wages in the public sector.”
Many groups like the BCTF say they were kept in the dark about this morning’s announcement; when prompted to respond to this, the premier side-stepped the question and said now that details are out, she just wants feedback “because we need to take the time to make sure the final product is the product of input.”
“No one will benefit from government trying to rush it through. We’re trying to get an agreement here,” Clark adds.
“If we want to reach a 10-year agreement [then] we need to sit down with the BC Teachers Federation and the other partners in the system and agree, that’s going to take some time,” Clark explains.
If the two sides can’t agree on a deal by mid-June, a mediator will step in, setting a deadline for July 25th.
“We want to do what’s best for students. It’s one of the reasons why I became a teacher. By all means, I want to make sure the students have a good time in school…. take the politics out of it… speak for students and the school system in British Columbia. You can’t help but say we need to engage in this conversation,” says Education Minister Don McRae.
After spending much of the last school year in job action, the BCTF agreed to a contract that will expire in June.
Vancouver School Board Chair Patti Bacchus regrets she had to hear about this through the media, instead of being consulted beforehand.
“I would hope that they would be working together. School boards are the employers in this relationship, we are the co-governors, and I think it’s important that we’re all on board, working together to find something that really work and be accepted by all the parties,” Bacchus explains.
“The timing is a bit surprising that the government would come out with its own version just as the two parties who have actually been working together have come [up] with an agreement, so I’m curious why this would be coming out at this time,” Bacchus questions.
Bacchus says the timing is interesting too, given that an “agreement in committee” on bargaining between the BC Public School Employers Association and the BCTF is headed for ratification.
How would the NDP handle the teachers situation if they were in power? The party’s Education Critic Robin Austin says the NDP would have to fix years of damage done by the Liberals and in doing so, would initiate a better working relationship.
“I think we have to overcome all the animosity that has taken place over the last several years. I think when you are a government that passes unconstitutional laws, it makes it difficult to then turn the clock back,” he says.
Austin adds both sides need to avoid negotiating through the media.
There are some things in the deal he agrees with though, like bringing in an outside mediator if future negotiations hit a standstill.
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“What the government calls “salary certainty and fairness, by indexing public school teacher salaries to increases to wages in the public sector.”
If that they case, they need to put their retirement fund and benefits into dollar value and take that into consideration. They benefits dont’ come for free, and they rarely show the $ that tax payers have to pay. Teachers, health care workers etc, can retire at age 5x and get full benefits while NORMAL people won’t be able to get their full benefit ’till age 65-67. How about their health benefits and such afte retirement, which they probably have better access too since they are civil servants. How about working hours where (10-12hrs) a day is the norm for private sector? Not to mention their job security, where there are tons of people waiting in line for the job if they are not statisfied with it. Or in the private sector, people get fired if they are not performing. We need to be able to fire these teachers if they are not performing based on the students report card?
Back in the days, people love government job because of their benefits and retirement plan dispite the lower salary. Now that their salary has been brought up to the same level as private sector, we need to look into the benefit to make sure they are same level as private sector too.. Since they want everything to be FAIR…..
O ya… If you go to fort mac and work at mc donald, they get higher pay then mc donald workers in vancouver too.. so.. if you go to fort mac as a teacher, you will probably get a higher paying job too..
Can a news report help us public to investigate on pension, benefits, etc of public sector and compare it to private sector? It would help us so much when we look at these debate on who to support.
no one is right, and no one is wrong, but who can believe this unelected fake premier
So you’re saying pay us more and we’ll be happy. Go get a second job in the 2.5 months a year that you have off that no one else has. Bargaining? The teachers don’t bargain they whine and stamp their feet when they don’t get there way, go on the news waving signs about how they are only about the students and then behind close doors demand more money.
teachers don’t get paid during their summer break. as for the rest of the time off during the year they are entitled to holidays just like any other working person. Have you actually listened to what the teachers are asking for in their collective agreements? Apparently not, by your Ill informed statements it sounds like you have no idea at all what the teachers are asking for. Check you facts before you beak off.
Bob you must be a huge teacher supporter. There are so many things wrong with your statements. First of all what evidence do you have that Clark has a huge grudge against the profession. If you have none, well that would be like me saying that the teachers don’t want to take the deal because they have a giant grudge against the Liberal government so even if a good deal came along they would just make things difficult. Secondly, the union has also come up with many solutions that are TERRIBLE ideas and many teachers are not true professionals. In fact many of them are terrible teachers holding on until they can collect a full pension and use the same worksheets and projects on a yearly basis. I worked at an after school care for a while and a kid brought in a map of Canada that was from the early 90′s, a co-worker had done the same project when they were in school. Not sure if you know this but the map of Canada has changed since the early 90′s. The union also suggested that teachers should get bereavement days for things like their neighbours cat dying. A group of them also used a pro-d day to play ping pong for “team development”. This all sounds so professional. Bob, do you know how many people work in Vancouver but can’t afford to live here? It is the second most expensive place in the world to live, so there are ALOT of people that work in Vancouver that don’t live here. Should we pay everyone that works in Vancouver more so that they can afford to live here to or just teachers? Those other people that can’t afford to live in Vancouver work 11.5 months of the year…..teachers do not. Always two sides to the coin Bob, maybe try taking a look at the other side one of these days.
It amazes me how ignorant the right leaning people are. This is common sense to a central democrat and teacher. I went to University, but it does not take elementary school education to figure out that the liberals/conservatives/the rich want to shut me and all Unions up. This so-called agreement was done once again with no negotiating or at best asking questions to any of us, I find it funny how Crusty Clark was talking to Elementary school kids about it though. This Government keeps digging holes instead of filling them and it’s truly funny to watch.
You don’t even make sense, and you’re a teacher? You can’t seem to figure anything out. All of us just want teachers to do their jobs. Teach.
The BCTF are far left loons. The NDP isn’t even liberal enough for them.
This is a great deal….
Teachers (mostly the teachers union as most teachers are fine people forced to sign or follow the union fanatics and teach a progressive agenda)teachers union doesnt want this because they like to ‘Bully” the Government and going on t.v with wild bully tactics and spread a bunch of lies of how bad they are treated !
Fact is teachers have great pay $100,000 plus per year full benefits,holidays excellent reitirement plan unreal and unheard of in the real working world ..
I know my Mom is a teacher (since the late 70′s) and the union is a bunch of bullies,its odd,teachers get children in a bunch of trouble/suspension/arrested for saying doing far less of what the teachers union says/acts and treatens to do !
$100 000 plus per year? Looks like the VSB has been pocketing $600 000 of my salary!
DOWN BOY!!! Bad human pit bull. Seems to me like you should have paid a little more attention in English class. My kids’ teachers have been great; they all deserve to be paid like hockey players. I’m a little on the conservative side, but I’m still amazed by what happened when the NDP was last in power. I expected teachers to get 12 or 15 % increases, but instead they accepted zero and zero, or was it zero, zero and zero from the NDP. There was no imposed contract; the teachers accepted zero. They must have believed the NDP saying they had no money, but they don’t believe Christy. Would you believe her? She can find lots of money for her friends, but nothing for people she doesn’t like. You don’t always get what you pay for, but you always lose on what you don’t pay for.
Feeble attempt to maybe buy the votes of teachers in the province? Won’t matter, the NDP will be in after May, they can maybe attempt to fix the absolute disaster the Liberals have made this province. Medical system? Education? DON’T NEED THAT! Good thing Gordo was able to upgrade his yacht and pad his cronies wallets before he was shown the door. I don’t understand the point of paying taxes under a Liberal government when all they do is take our money and spend it on themselves and their friends.
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I bet you don’t understand why you pay taxes! Because when the NDP come into power I’ll be paying taxes for you so you can do nothing. They will crush the economy for a decade and the harder one works, the more tax they will pay.
I can guarantee that I work harder than you every single day of my life, “JR”. I haven’t had a meaningful raise in 7 years. Diagnostic medical staff is leaving the province at an alarming rate due to extremely higher (upwards of 30% more an hour) wages, all because the Liberals would rather put money into their own pockets instead of solidifying recruitment and retention of medical professionals. I sure hope for your sake you don’t ever get sick.
NDP closed hospitals down in BC,thats why you hear about drastic situations daily..Liberals got in just in time to save the Mission Hospital.
NDP made it harder for the poor/elderly/disabled to pay for medicine..They had to pay the full amount up front,the Liberals changed that making it free for the poor/low income and under a certain wage you pay a very small portion of the cost of your prescription..If people on pension vote for the NDP they wont have enough money to pay for their prescriptions ,as you and the NDP want to change it !
Furthermore,when the NDP was in they didnt cater to the Government unions,the teachers still complained about low wages,the other government sector still complained about cutbacks and low wages..Look at every province run by the NDP they are bankrupt or close to it,high tax/low wage..Saskatchewan is booming in the last several years because they woke up and booted out the NDP.
Lastly B.C has the lowest personal income tax in Canada,and NDP/Dix said he will raise all taxes,raise gas and electricity..How is this better for B.C ? It’s NOT ! NDP brought in Aircare,another tax grab that hurts families and low income !